Author Topic: An idea, would you be interested? (Read 3065 times)

codestryke · « **on:** January 10, 2009, 04:58:14 PM »

Ok so although I haven't participated in the "Have you ever" thread I can see that is very popular.

My idea is to use this approach to create a general gaming frame work for this site. I would start create a directory structure, basic include modules and such. The next task would be a login page or something to that effect, I stop there and pull a name from a list of participants of the thread.. So I say "I challenge jannesiera to create the login page" jannesiera creates the login page then he challenges someone to create say the register page, and keep going till we have a framework.

The challenges should be 1 or 2 pages max and be something someone can create in a couple hours or less. You could not challenge the same person twice in a row or do a back and forth thing...

Would people be interested in this approach? Would you list yourself as a contributor?

lolninja · « **Reply #1 on:** January 10, 2009, 07:46:25 PM »

This sounds like a really good idea, and I would love to join in, though unfortunately my free time is very limited, so I don't think I will be able to help much.
If you needed someone to help with code reviews I would be willing to take a look, mainly to see if I can see any security vulnerabilities, so that people don't get hacked due to a community framework.

xBleuWolfx · « **Reply #2 on:** January 10, 2009, 07:49:56 PM »

I'd like to play but my programming skills aren't the best for too complex stuff, so if you need someone to write the Login/Register pages, I'm your guy. Also, what language would this be in and will it utilize templating?

codestryke · « **Reply #3 on:** January 10, 2009, 08:33:44 PM »

Yes I would like to use templates, if it's a true framework that people can build games upon they I would think templates are a must.

I wouldn't think you would need to be the end all be all coder, nor should it take a lot of time. If this takes to long for someone then the project won't work. Like I said 1 - 2 hours per section...

xBleuWolfx · « **Reply #4 on:** January 10, 2009, 08:54:26 PM »

Quote from: codestryke on January 10, 2009, 08:33:44 PM

Yes I would like to use templates, if it's a true framework that people can build games upon they I would think templates are a must.

Okay. Will it be in PHP using Smarty?

Barrikor · « **Reply #5 on:** January 11, 2009, 01:53:14 AM »

Yea! A programming game

Should it be just Object Oriented or just Functional though? as a game it'll be messy anyway, but it might be good to keep it the same paradigm, on the the other hand, a bunch of different ways of coding coming together all at once might be fun, I just don't want to get a headache looking at it

jannesiera · « **Reply #6 on:** January 11, 2009, 04:08:52 AM »

Sounds like a realy cool idea

. But I won't participate because I really lack pogramming skills

. Still I hope this idea will start.

luvva · « **Reply #7 on:** January 11, 2009, 08:22:19 AM »

sounds like a good idea, but how will we sort out databases, we'd need some kind of idea of what the game should include.

Piny2u · « **Reply #8 on:** January 11, 2009, 11:35:39 AM »

Pretty nice idea!

I think will be great if will be fully customizable... but for this we need to work a lot

codestryke · « **Reply #9 on:** January 11, 2009, 04:55:05 PM »

I don't think we should create a game, per say but a frame work. What would be included in the framework? Some ideas are....

Login / Registration Pages
Game News
Mailbox
Preferences (change password, email etc)
Player Profiles
CRON jobs (sending warning for not logging in for x days, delete x days after that)

Basically the frame work would be something you start with, just the basics. You have idea to create a game that you are a bug and you have to evolve by doing quests and eating other bugs. You have the idea so you get a copy of the frame work and now you can work on the "meat" of the game rather then all the additional stuff that has to get done.

I'm busy trying to get a game done and out for an alpha / beta test, but if I get some time I would like to start with a "how to get going" article. Basically what you need to download, install and how to set it up to create a development environment to create a game. By itself it should be a very helpful article for those just beginning, from there if there is enough interest in this we can build upon that

JGadrow · « **Reply #10 on:** January 12, 2009, 07:04:45 AM »

Hmmm... I think the resulting framework would probably be pretty poor. Creating a framework without a solid, cohesive plan is usually doomed to failure lol.

That said... as long as it didn't require a large swath of my time I'd probably mess with it.

Piny2u · « **Reply #11 on:** January 12, 2009, 07:07:10 AM »

Quote from: Makari on January 12, 2009, 07:04:45 AM

Hmmm... I think the resulting framework would probably be pretty poor. Creating a framework without a solid, cohesive plan is usually doomed to failure lol.

That said... as long as it didn't require a large swath of my time I'd probably mess with it.

Sadly... but u have right.

jannesiera · « **Reply #12 on:** January 12, 2009, 09:53:06 AM »

Quote from: codestryke on January 11, 2009, 04:55:05 PM

Basically the frame work would be something you start with, just the basics. You have idea to create a game that you are a bug and you have to evolve by doing quests and eating other bugs. You have the idea so you get a copy of the frame work and now you can work on the "meat" of the game rather then all the additional stuff that has to get done.

I'm busy trying to get a game done and out for an alpha / beta test, but if I get some time I would like to start with a "how to get going" article. Basically what you need to download, install and how to set it up to create a development environment to create a game. By itself it should be a very helpful article for those just beginning, from there if there is enough interest in this we can build upon that

That would be great. There isn't something like that on the whole internet yet

codestryke · « **Reply #13 on:** January 12, 2009, 10:45:55 AM »

Quote from: Makari on January 12, 2009, 07:04:45 AM

Hmmm... I think the resulting framework would probably be pretty poor. Creating a framework without a solid, cohesive plan is usually doomed to failure lol.

That said... as long as it didn't require a large swath of my time I'd probably mess with it.

As I said it was an idea and the idea requires participation so before I even start I wanted to gauge what type of interest there was. I didn't want to design anything until I knew it had some merit

FirePenguins · « **Reply #14 on:** January 12, 2009, 12:50:08 PM »

I think it could be a lot of fun. One thing that we should definitely do is create a list of all the variable names so that they are standardized across pages so that everyone calls the Name the same thing not some pages playername some username ome acctname, etc... And they should correspond to the names in the database. I also think we should create a full game instead of just a framework. For those who aren't as programming inclined they could be challenged to create a graphic or design the attack feature or something.

^^ my 2 cents :p

jannesiera · « **Reply #15 on:** January 12, 2009, 12:51:46 PM »

Quote from: FirePenguins on January 12, 2009, 12:50:08 PM

I think it could be a lot of fun. One thing that we should definitely do is create a list of all the variable names so that they are standardized across pages so that everyone calls the Name the same thing not some pages playername some username ome acctname, etc... And they should correspond to the names in the database. I also think we should create a full game instead of just a framework. For those who aren't as programming inclined they could be challenged to create a graphic or design the attack feature or something.

^^ my 2 cents :p

Yeah, I would like to draw something. I suck, but still

. It's just fun you know...

grimsage · « **Reply #16 on:** January 29, 2009, 03:55:50 PM »

it could be tons of fun if you have the skill for it

travo · « **Reply #17 on:** April 26, 2009, 05:07:20 AM »

Is this still going to go ahead? Because if it is, Im in, but its been a while since the last reply...

Or has it started and Ive missed it? Its late, and I cant remember if Ive seen anything else about it, but I dont think I have

It should go ahead. It doesnt matter if it turns out bad, I think it will be fun, and will probably bring the community a little closer.

Use SVN so everyone can get the latest code and help out if there are any problems. I think the basic svn/ticketing package on assembla.com is free, and it also has other stuff with it.

It should go ahead.

Slashmore · « **Reply #18 on:** May 28, 2009, 03:34:47 PM »

I think this would be a good idea, Open to all users of BBgamezone. I'd be interested in helping also, My skills are not the best but good enough to create the basic pages

Maybe once it was finished someone could go through it and neaten it up due to more than one person making it, people code differently so it will be a little messy but will beat any free frame work you can find online.

Helderic · « **Reply #19 on:** May 29, 2009, 09:59:25 PM »

I think we should do this but instead of making a framework, a wiki with info on various technologies and links to tutorials, etc related to bbgs.

jannesiera · « **Reply #20 on:** May 31, 2009, 03:28:45 AM »

Quote from: Helderic on May 29, 2009, 09:59:25 PM

I think we should do this but instead of making a framework, a wiki with info on various technologies and links to tutorials, etc related to bbgs.

I agree that a wiki just for bbgame development would be really handy. I think we should do this. (this could be added to the bbgame network)

travo · « **Reply #21 on:** May 31, 2009, 04:09:42 AM »

It would be extremely handy. Im in if it goes ahead.

karnedge · « **Reply #22 on:** May 31, 2009, 10:46:18 AM »

I'll also go in on this... but I would also suggest a Wiki. Like have drop-in files/tutorials sections for each part like you suggested (ie; login, register, maps, attributes, etc).

travo · « **Reply #23 on:** May 31, 2009, 05:07:18 PM »

Exactly...Maybe even how each of us does that aspect differently, just so we can see what the different ways of accomplishing something are.

Scion · « **Reply #24 on:** June 02, 2009, 02:47:09 AM »

travo's idea is actually quite good....

pick something, either a common feature to most games, or put down a good description of some function, and then see how different people solve the same problem....this sort of thing can be very educational, both for the people looking at the code and for the author...only point being it would have to be something that the average person can do in a few hours....i probably would spend too much longer...

..I also wouldnt restrict it just to php, lets see how the phython, ruby, perl, jvm...or whatever else crowd solves the problem.

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Author Topic: An idea, would you be interested? (Read 3065 times)