TOS violation = crime

[toxin]

Was not sure were to put so i put here.
On Thursday, the U.S. Attorney for the Central District of California announced that Lori Drew, now 49 years old, was indicted on conspiracy and hacking charges. The indictment charges Drew, a resident of O'Fallon, Missouri, with three counts of unauthorized access by violation of MySpace's terms of service and one count of conspiracy.

Not sure what everyone else will think. In the US a women was sent to jail over violating myspaces tos. There is more to it. some links
Cnet Link
Some other site
News about what happend

[trollface666]

Good. You wouldn't want her walking into your home and breaking your rules. Same applies to the internet.

[toxin]

Not sure if it has been changed. Here is  part of Google ToS:
"You may not use...Google's products, software, services and Web sites...and may not accept the Terms if...you are not of legal age to form a binding contract with Google."

[Zeggy]

Then ban her from the site, or from the internet. I think it's ridiculous to have to go to jail for that.

[Waizujin]

That is pure bs. Simple as that.

[toxin]

I believe she only went to jail because her action let to the suicide of a child.

[xBleuWolfx]

Then ban her from the site, or from the internet. I think it's ridiculous to have to go to jail for that.

I agree.

[raestlyn]

I believe she only went to jail because her action let to the suicide of a child.

And how that is supposed to be possible?

[Zeggy]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megan_Meier

Megan Taylor Meier (November 6, 1992 – October 17, 2006) was an American teenager from Dardenne Prairie, Missouri who committed suicide in October 2006. Her suicide was attributed to cyber-bullying through the social networking website MySpace. The account through which the bullying took place purportedly belonged to a 16-year-old male named "Josh Evans," but was actually created and monitored by the mother of a former friend of Meier, whom a police report identified as Lori Janine Drew.

The purpose of the cyberbullying was to use Megan’s e-mails with Josh Evans to later humiliate Megan in retribution for her allegedly spreading gossip about Sarah Drew, the daughter of Lori Janine Drew.

[raestlyn]

Wow, that was one stupid little girl.. I might say evolution (survival of the fittest and all that..) had something to do with this crap..

[Zeggy]

Wow, that was one stupid little girl.. I might say evolution (survival of the fittest and all that..) had something to do with this crap..

lol, that's not the response I expected

I was thinking it was pretty immature and downright evil of the mom.

[jannesiera]

Wow, that was one stupid little girl.. I might say evolution (survival of the fittest and all that..) had something to do with this crap..

Lol. You're probably the living proof evolution is bullshit .

[raestlyn]

Wow, that was one stupid little girl.. I might say evolution (survival of the fittest and all that..) had something to do with this crap..

Lol. You're probably the living proof evolution is bullshit .

Only because I think someone couldn't understand that bullying in the internet has nothing to do with real life. Yes, even when the bully might destroy your "reputation". According to that story the girl had been diagnosed for few things like depression and was eating 3 different antidepressant so her self image and confidence was already down. Sucked to be her.

Of course the mother was a retard too, I'm not saying that, but the internet bullies often are horribly stupid.

[jannesiera]

Yeah, I know, this was just an oppurtunity to play internet bully... Think that's going to be my next game... XD

[xBleuWolfx]

Yeah, I know, this was just an oppurtunity to play internet bully... Think that's going to be my next game... XD

I'd play it. 

[toxin]

I think one of the last message from the fake account told the girl "The world would be a better place without her."

[jannesiera]

I think one of the last message from the fake account told the girl "The world would be a better place without her."

Yeah, it's sad... Could someone slap da ***** in the face for me? Thx.

[raestlyn]

I think one of the last message from the fake account told the girl "The world would be a better place without her."

According the Wiki, it was sent by the bullys co-worker so the girl would stop contacting her.

[xBleuWolfx]

Then ban her from the site, or from the internet. I think it's ridiculous to have to go to jail for that.

I agree.

After reading the wikipedia entry, I have to say that I withdraw my earlier comment.

[Tribal]

Then ban her from the site, or from the internet. I think it's ridiculous to have to go to jail for that.

However, is it possible to fully ban someone from your website?

UserID Ban = Creates a new account
Email Ban = Creates a new email account. IE. Make a quick hotmail account.
IP Ban = Banned until ISP assigns new IP to their line. Or is Dialup its until they re-connected.
Complete banned at isp (isp stops user going to website) = Is this even possible? If so, they could always use a wireless connection at a neighbours wifi connection, or a local internet cafe, even at a local library.

So is it really possible?

[Zeggy]

btw, I didn't realise she killed somebody when I posted that

The website she was using was myspace... and I'd guess the average myspace user wouldn't have a clue how to get around a simple ban

[toxin]

Glad to see everyones thoughts.

Now about the BBG Wanted one of their rules to the game

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Any software that interacts with the game and lets you perform actions that you can't do in a supported browser (Firefox and Internet Explorer) or gives you advantages against other players is not allowed. Therefore Opera browser is not allowed.
How can they do that?  What are your thoughts on it? I think they are talking about Opera's built in auto refresher (not 100% on that)   Firefox offer a crap load of ad-ons  that could grant  advantage over IE.

[Tribal]

Well, i am guessing only a minor percentage of users use opera, however that is still people that they are not allowing to play their game.

More fool them to be honest.

[JGadrow]

Ok, I'll finally weigh in here.

On Violate TOS = Hacking:
This is a HORRIBLE precedent to be set. Yet another way to limit your rights. If this is the case, I believe it should now be expressly stated in the site's TOS what the MAXIMUM PENALTY for their violation is.

On the 'Evil Mom' & suicide 'victim':
The case doesn't sound like it was about TOS Violation to me, it sound to me like we have to deal with a new law because someone died. This did NOT arise because of TOS violation, the root cause was harassment. The girl did NOT die because the Mom falsified her information, she died because she chose that as the means to end her harassment.

Now, I agree that the Mom was juvenile and should not have done what she did. However, the little girl was just as stupid, probably MORE so, than the Mom. At least the Mom is still alive. All it really would have taken was showing the harassing communication to her family and the harassment would have ended one way or another. Ending your life is not exactly an optimal method of solving a problem in your life However, I must say that I am a big fan of stupid people removing themselves from the gene pool.

Yes, I know, I'm heartless. But the girl must have been as well as she chose to end her life and place the burden of that kind of hurt on everyone who cared about her. If I can survive every day after holding my first-born child while she struggled for breath in my arms until she stopped breathing (she had Anencephaly) , certainly, this girl could have withstood a little bit of hurt feelings.

[raestlyn]

Now, I agree that the Mom was juvenile and should not have done what she did. However, the little girl was just as stupid, probably MORE so, than the Mom. At least the Mom is still alive. All it really would have taken was showing the harassing communication to her family and the harassment would have ended one way or another. Ending your life is not exactly an optimal method of solving a problem in your life However, I must say that I am a big fan of stupid people removing themselves from the gene pool.

Yay, someone agrees with me in this topic!