Can someone help me? Answer the questions.

[happycrappie]

Hello, guys.

Well, first of all, I don't like that people that don't even read the topic and post something like "Sorry, I can't help you", so please, read the topic and just post something with you can help me, please. Thanks.

Well well, I'll post some questions here so you can answer what you know about it.

I wanted to make the website like knightfights, bitefight, travian... Games like that

QUESTIONS

1) What do I need to start?
2) Do I need to have some PHP experience? Because I don't have any.
3) Do I need to have some MySQL knowing? Because I had something like three years ago.
4) Is there a program to make maps? Something like Tibia Map-Editor or RPG Maker...
5) Is there any tutorial to show me all that I need?


That's it. Thanks, guys, I hope you can help me!

THE LAST QUESTION IS VERY IMPORTANT! THE MOST IMPORTANT.

[Karlos]

• E-Books, Teaching you're self GFX, become good at it. Make (X)HTML and CSS templates to practice and make it look nice!
• Urrr... How else are you ment to do it? Of course  :wink:
• Of course.
• Idk. Never looked.
• Various tutorials over the net i'll think you'll find.

As Posted On CE

[Scion]

my first suggestion would be to be clear what you want to create. knightfight and bitefight are very much alike but completely different to travian.

next you should take some time to investigate or find out exactly what is required to learn what you need to make the game you envision...that or (assuming you have the financial resorces what it takes t have the game made for you)

finally i would add that its often a lot more fun to get together with your friends, drink a few beers and BS each other about what youd do if....than to actually do it....(note this is not intended to discourage) making a game is a lot of hard work, a whole lot, and if you have no experience at all you can pretty much expect to trash your first 95% of your first attempt....

[Nox]

Not my favourite ones (besides graphics, respect)
But to the questions (from your post I guess you went for solo creator, that will affect the rest of my post):
0) Do not expect to finish a game like that as your first one...it might happen, but it's extremely unlikely and also nothing that should discourage you. Remember Neo jumping in matrix for the first time?
1) You need (something more, something less) to have a:
- applications for further specified aspects
- technological concept, content+story+game mechanics concept
- at least mediocre, ideally advanced or expert knowledge in:
(X)HTML, CSS, JavaScript, PHP, MySQL and graphical design and webdesign
- and other things that doesn't come to my mind now
2) a lot, as answered before
3) at least mediocre
4) don't know
5) well, there's a tutorial on the website this forum is part of...though there's not everything, I doubt there's a tutorial for something that complex. You'd have to go through several websites devoted to all the aspects I mentioned

[happycrappie]

Not my favourite ones (besides graphics, respect)
But to the questions (from your post I guess you went for solo creator, that will affect the rest of my post):
0) Do not expect to finish a game like that as your first one...it might happen, but it's extremely unlikely and also nothing that should discourage you. Remember Neo jumping in matrix for the first time?
1) You need (something more, something less) to have a:
- applications for further specified aspects
- technological concept, content+story+game mechanics concept
- at least mediocre, ideally advanced or expert knowledge in:
(X)HTML, CSS, JavaScript, PHP, MySQL and graphical design and webdesign
- and other things that doesn't come to my mind now
2) a lot, as answered before
3) at least mediocre
4) don't know
5) well, there's a tutorial on the website this forum is part of...though there's not everything, I doubt there's a tutorial for something that complex. You'd have to go through several websites devoted to all the aspects I mentioned

I understand what you meant... Well, actually, I was waiting to catch my bus to finaly go home, then my friend appeared! He wanted to create some game, he and his friend... I said to him I could help with (X)HTML and CSS thing, because I know something about it. I said there was a game called BiteFight, the browser game I like to play... He liked the idea of making the game as a browser game, but the thing is: I just met him todya after college. He took my email but didn't answered yet. So, I'm by myself now, soon or later we'll speak again. I just wanted to know what can I do to make this browser game, so I can start alone and learn somethings! Then I can help them later.

Alright, let's start with:

0) I have strong to move on, but I'm not going to spend money. I live in Brazil, I can't pay for it. Here you have to pay 150% that you get to the government! But while I'm living here, I'll have to pay that sh*t (sorry about that :S).
1) What aplications do I need? It's not possible to know everything I need, I'm new here. I mean... I was expecting for some tutorial website, you know? :/
2) Is there any tutorial for free? :/ I think FREE is the word that the world needs today. A guy wanted $24,99 for the book that explains me how to create my own browser game! That's unfair.

[Barrikor]

0.
Live tax free on an ocean liner that has a good internet connection! (Sorry, couldn't resist)
You'll need a server running, the only way to get around paying for one would be to install Apache (it's free) on your home computer.

3.
You don't need any book, any tutorial for web design and database design can be applied to making a browser game. All information can be found for free. If you have to pay for anything, someone's gypping you off.

For PHP, the PHP site, http://us3.php.net/, has documentation for the entire language.

If you want some basic tutorials, look over at http://www.w3schools.com/, for the basics it the best around, I'm sure you've must have seen it back while you were learning HTML and CSS.

[Scion]

and lets not forget the tutorials specifically targeted at game development at http://buildingbrowsergames.com/tutorials/ but id do the w3c tuts first.

as for tools if your just getting started then you probably cant beat XAMPP for simplicity....its an all in one Apache, MySql, Php, and Perl stack all contained in a single install. Once you have it installed you will be able to try some of the tutorials out for yourself on your own development environment.

You should also consider a php IDE. Personally i use eclipse with a php plugin, but i use eclipse profesionally for non php work as well so im familiar with it. You may find that something a bit more focused is better PHPEdit was ok when i looked at it, but there are a tonne find one that is free and that you find easy to use.

That should be enough to get you started. If you like bitefight, then perhapes once youve worked your way through the tutorials you could start out by trying out a simple clone. youll find that a simple clone of bitefight will be significantly simpler than some of what is described in the tutorials on building browser games.

[Nox]

I understand what you meant... Well, actually, I was waiting to catch my bus to finaly go home, then my friend appeared! He wanted to create some game, he and his friend... I said to him I could help with (X)HTML and CSS thing, because I know something about it. I said there was a game called BiteFight, the browser game I like to play... He liked the idea of making the game as a browser game, but the thing is: I just met him todya after college. He took my email but didn't answered yet. So, I'm by myself now, soon or later we'll speak again. I just wanted to know what can I do to make this browser game, so I can start alone and learn somethings! Then I can help them later.

Alright, let's start with:

0) I have strong to move on, but I'm not going to spend money. I live in Brazil, I can't pay for it. Here you have to pay 150% that you get to the government! But while I'm living here, I'll have to pay that sh*t (sorry about that :S).
1) What aplications do I need? It's not possible to know everything I need, I'm new here. I mean... I was expecting for some tutorial website, you know? :/
2) Is there any tutorial for free? :/ I think FREE is the word that the world needs today. A guy wanted $24,99 for the book that explains me how to create my own browser game! That's unfair.

Important thing is that if you trust him, because you'll share a product of many many hours of your hard work with him.

1) http://community.bbgamezone.net/index.php?topic=1360.0
http://community.bbgamezone.net/index.php?topic=1599.0
mainly something to create code (text editor), most of them are free, and optionally something to create graphics with,
GIMP is free
2) I don't think it's unfair, he spent time learning the languages, the concepts, he put his experience to his book, worked to create it
so I think it's fair he wants to be rewarded for it

[Dasein Fiasco]

You should also consider a php IDE. Personally i use eclipse with a php plugin, but i use eclipse profesionally for non php work as well so im familiar with it. You may find that something a bit more focused is better PHPEdit was ok when i looked at it, but there are a tonne find one that is free and that you find easy to use.

I would suggest using NetBeans (http://www.netbeans.org/features/php/) for most PHP/JavaScript/MySQL environments. NetBeans is already being embraced by a material portion of the PHP community since it basically kills the alternatives in features, stability, sophistication, and support, despite still being very new to market (PHP and JavaScript integration, anyway - NetBeans the IDE is on version 6.5). There's a long-lived thriving community behind the software, and I can say from personal experience that the developers working on the project are extremely responsive and helpful to public inquiry and input. And, with the all other platforms supported by NetBeans, once you start to broaden your programming skillset you likely won't have to go searching for a new IDE (I use NetBeans for everything but .NET work, where Visual Studio is the superior choice)

Here's an introduction to setting up a NetBeans PHP environment:

http://netbeans.dzone.com/articles/netbeans-ide-65-beta-offers-bu

And here's a mighty collection of PHP and related tutorials provided by the NetBeans community to support the IDE's inclusion of the language:

http://www.netbeans.org/kb/trails/php.html

Enjoy!