Author Topic: -Down To The Point-How do I make the game I want to make. (Read 2859 times)

EON Master · « **on:** June 12, 2008, 04:27:19 PM »

I'm not sure if this belongs in this forum,but here is goes.

I want to make a Browser Based game called Clash Of Power.I already have everything planned out,but I just need to figure out how to make the game.Can you help me out here?But first,i'll explain it a little.

The Basics
I basically want to make a game where you can make yor own nation,declare war on other people,trade with other people,and form alliances.In a more complicated form,that description would look like this....

WAR
-I want it to be possible for a nation to litteraly conquer the other and take it's land and resources,then the conquered nation is given a small amount of land somwhere else.
-I want it to be possible for nations to declare war on each other.

DIOPLOMACY
-I want it to be possible for some nations to merge into one nation.They cazn merge with other nations untill the number of nations merged is 5.
-I want it to be possible for nations to trade resources(i'll list those somewhere else).
-I want it to be possible for nations to send others foreign aid.

OTHERS
-I want it to be possible for a nation to be damaged by a Natural Disaster depending on where they are.
-I want these resources to trade:Alluminum,Uranium,Gold,Oil,Gold,Coal,Steel,Copper,and Wood.
-I want it to be possible for a nation to answer certain questions every day to shape the government of their nation.

Whoo....I just spent an hour typing that.Anyway,theres not much else than that but the screens to do all that stuff.It could take years for me to do this,but it'll pay off.But still,I need ALOT of help figuring out the codes.

PS.I don't have a logo.Thats one of the only things I don't have.

robotix · « **Reply #1 on:** June 13, 2008, 11:28:28 AM »

I believe this should be posted somewhere else, if not then, my fault, but the best thing you could do is check out the starting line, learn HTML/XHTML/Javascript(or some other scripting lang, but JS is the best if you ask me)/probably CSS/Mysql, or another databasing.. and get apache or another server installed.

EON Master · « **Reply #2 on:** June 13, 2008, 02:21:40 PM »

Okay.But I geuss I can kiss this dream good bye if it costs me money....and I mean money.I parents would be so ticked if I started spending money on that stuff.

robotix · « **Reply #3 on:** June 13, 2008, 02:31:13 PM »

doesn't cost any money unless you can't d your own graphics/programming, other than actually putting it online.. It DOES cost money to put it online..

EON Master · « **Reply #4 on:** June 13, 2008, 03:02:05 PM »

Oh....okay.Then I can kiss that dream good bye............

ZadoAsh · « **Reply #5 on:** June 13, 2008, 05:20:03 PM »

There are free web hosts. That provide you with basic services.

My mum an dad use to disagree with me doing what I do until they saw it brought money in. Now they support me as long as i only take my own money not things like the monthly family allowance XD

I used a free webhosting service for around a year to learn my coding and to get a basic game running - then I was making enough to get some paid hosting which was cheap and very affordable.

One tip. Start with something small simple and easy to get your head around coding get the basics down. Then move onto your more complex idea.

robotix · « **Reply #6 on:** June 13, 2008, 08:49:39 PM »

Exactly. Start with something like a game where you simply move around and really do nothing, move forward a little and add players, then add things you can pick up, etc. And I forgot to mention the free web hosts, my bad ^_^

EON Master · « **Reply #7 on:** June 14, 2008, 02:40:21 PM »

I've searched the web like 31 times and I didn't find anything about free web hosting for that stuff.... T_T

EON Master · « **Reply #8 on:** June 14, 2008, 02:43:25 PM »

Oh also,I forgot to mention,i'm no doing anything big and fancy.I'm just kind of mixing together NationStates,CyberNations,and some charecteristics of my dream video game which rpobally come true.I just need to fugure out the math for certain things and make a couple AIs.Probally only 1 AI though.

ZadoAsh · « **Reply #9 on:** June 14, 2008, 03:39:33 PM »

freehostia.com is what I started with... they give you a sub-domain ([ursite].freehostia.com)

It hasn't got cron jobs... but to start with basic features its perfect. Although It crashes... alot

robotix · « **Reply #10 on:** June 14, 2008, 04:05:16 PM »

I'd also reccomend looking into a redirect domain (say, your game is 'coolgame' if someone is looking for it, they aren't going to type coolgame.freehostia.com, but they will type www.coolgame.com so make that your redirect domain that way it'll bring them to your actual site.)

EON Master · « **Reply #11 on:** June 14, 2008, 07:38:33 PM »

I asked my parents and they said i'm not allowed to spend money on that stuff.I geuss i'll have to use a sub-domain.

EON Master · « **Reply #12 on:** June 14, 2008, 08:49:24 PM »

The FreeHostia thing isn'r working out.The controls are as hard to figure out as trying to do 111 minus 112.Plus I can't figure out how to edit/modify anything.

Any Other Ideas?

leZourite · « **Reply #13 on:** June 14, 2008, 09:16:25 PM »

Not to be rude, but if you are going to get stuck at every little difficulties you find it's going to be tough. So cheer up !

First install yourself a local webserver package (like easyphp, wamp, or whatever), then actually work on your game (good ol' paper and pen). Learn the basic before trying to figure the hosting (because even if it's important you aren't going far with free hosting and no game in it).

Do the things in proper order

too many people want to be surgeons nowadays but don't want to bother practice how to diagnose a patient, most of people here that know their stuff didn't magically become "leet coders" just by looking at thin air, it takes work, a lot of time and experience and motivation.

EON Master · « **Reply #14 on:** June 15, 2008, 02:12:28 PM »

Thanks for the encouragement leZourite.I'll try harder.I'm usually good with this stuff.I have a little bit of knoledge in PHP, and I know a reasonable amount of Java Script and HTML.And if I can find a server for free-which is probally highly unlikely-my brother could probally help me.He's a master at this computer language stuff.He even knows how to type data in with Bianary Code(like 10111011).Mabye him being a COMMO(Communications) in the military has something to do with it....anyway,I'll look into getting a server.

ZadoAsh · « **Reply #15 on:** June 15, 2008, 05:52:27 PM »

Yeah setting up a local webserver package will help a fair bit

There tons and tons of free hosting though, you just gotta google it!

Also with what leZourite said, it does take a lot of work and motivation! No matter what happens keep going and going if you really want to do this

Your Local Web Server

http://www.en.wampserver.com/

Fairly simple to set up. Plus you have full control over your PHP settings! It comes with everything in the install package so there is nothing to worry about basically!

Rimmy · « **Reply #16 on:** June 15, 2008, 08:32:05 PM »

x10hosting is also very good.

EON Master · « **Reply #17 on:** June 24, 2008, 05:19:00 PM »

Thanks for the motivation guys!!! T_T(tears of joy)

I'm gonna try to use that WAMP server thing.

T_T(tears of joy)

jeffsupersaiyan · « **Reply #18 on:** December 05, 2008, 03:34:17 AM »

im new so here is another thing to do . go one the web and look at other gaming communites and if it popular ask to join their community they will then add your link to their site and their link to your site. also free webhosting is only good if you want to run a simple game with not many resouces being used. but if your game will be running crons and other type of scripts go dedicated server.

Piny2u · « **Reply #19 on:** January 10, 2009, 09:45:40 AM »

To using an local webserver is a great ideea.

But u need to have some "computer resources" (rams, procesor... etc) and a good network provider. Anyway, for the beggining is ok! When u are almost done with your game you can try to buy domain and hosting. Isn't so expensive...

About free hosting .. don't know what to say

Isn't so a good idea in this case. You must take care about your scripts

If u think about a domaind and hosting, u can try GoDaddy! There are some domains with low price.

FirePenguins · « **Reply #20 on:** January 10, 2009, 02:02:24 PM »

What I did when I first starting is set up apache, mysql, and php on my personal computer which took me several days to figure out how to do all of that correctly

but it was a great learning experience and having done so taught me a lot about how all 3 of them work and about installing stuff from binaries without the pretty windows installer and editing how mysql runs, etc.. etc... which has been more than worth the time it took in the long run.

Then I played around on my computer for a few weeks to a month learning lots about php and mysql. I already knew a fair amount of html, but I learned about stylesheets and a lot more about web standards. I did a lot of smaller projects that would eventually be used in a game but were not games themselves such as making a login script and a registration script to add a player to a database. Or creating arrays of items with different attacks that you could select from a drop down list. By themselves not that useful, but all skills you might need in a game. Then once I had the knowledge to actually make a game I started work on that and looked into free hosts. Once I had some basic things for the game done I put it on the free host and found friends and people to test it out. This was a big learning stage because you find out how many hundreds of tricky ways people have to try and cheat or find bugs in your game like submitting their own form data and mysql injections. So having some people with good knowledge of those things test out your game (people that your trust) is the best way to learn about the security side of things. After that you are pretty much set to make whatever browser based game you want and learn all kinds of fancier things like making javascript maps that players can move around on or using dhtml.

So in short it can take a month or so to get your feet completely on the ground if you are starting with close to 0 experience. But once you make it through that time everything go much more quickly and easily and be a lot of fun

Learning is fun too, just it can be frustrating when you spend 30 minutes trying to figure out one should be easy little thing. But the more you work with it the faster and easier it becomes.

jannesiera · « **Reply #21 on:** January 10, 2009, 02:05:47 PM »

I completely agree with FirePinguins

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Author Topic: -Down To The Point-How do I make the game I want to make. (Read 2859 times)