looking to make some games!

[bigwavejake]

Hey all!

I've played a couple of PBBGs and found them really fun!  I've always wanted to try my had at making them.  When searching Google for development tips, I stumbled on this forum.  Just thought I'd introduce myself.

I've been a professional programmer for almost 15 years.  I write C code for SAS, the largest Business Intelligence software vendor.  I dabble with some of the web programming languages (Python, Ruby, PHP, and Smalltalk).

I hope to be an active forum member.

[jannesiera]

Hey and welcome to the community!

What are your plans to create a browser game? If I have to make a guess I think you will have most problems with a good game design, so be careful with that and don't forget that we are here to answer that sort of questions too (not only programming / sources related ). We are all very eager to meet your project .

[bigwavejake]

I've played around with PHP, but don't much care for the development style or environment.

I'm looking at developing a game in Seaside (Smalltalk web framework).  It's closer to what I'm used to in desktop dev.

As far as game, I'm looking to do a Western RPG.  That's as far as I've gotten in design.

[Harkins]

Seaside feels a lot like desktop development because of its fundamental use of continuations, which lets you feel a lot like you have a session like you do on the desktop. I think Seaside's an amazing experiment and worth wrapping one's brain around, but the web is fundamentally request/response and you'll have a lot more success with a web framework operating in this paradigm -- which, yeah, is going to be unfamiliar to you as a desktop coder.

Whatever tool you choose: at least you didn't choose PHP.

Wait, that's not what I meant to say. (Well, it is, but --)

Whatever tool you choose: welcome. Nice to have you.

[Chris]

C coder and you went for something else than PHP!? This is... perversion!

[bigwavejake]

No way!

PHP's syntax is closer to C, but the paradigm for Seaside is closer to what I'm used to as a desktop programmer.  The paradigm is the hard thing to learn.  After that, it's all just syntax.

[JGadrow]

I've been told that I need to look into SmallTalk. Supposedly, developers  utilizing SmallTalk are fanatically loyal in support of it. I just get all creeped out by the syntax. lol

Couple that with the fact that there's very little that I dislike about C++ and I haven't really seen a need to use SmallTalk. Maybe I'll cycle around to it when I'm old and have nothing else to do.

[bigwavejake]

C++ is great.  But the next logical step after C++ is Objective-C.  It's all of the C++ best practices put into a single language.  Objective-C is great.  But the next logical step is to Smalltalk.  All the Objective-C goodness, but also dynamically typed.  Makes code SUPER flexible.

tldr; Smalltalk > Obj-C > C++

[JGadrow]

See, I like typed languages. It's a way to validate your input and output without needing to add extra code to do so. If you need a function that is dynamic, (say because you don't want to declare the same code multiple times for different types) that's what templating is for.

Have you looked into D at all? It's still a fledgling language but it appears to be pretty ingenious in that it allows you to interface with other libraries but you cannot compile a C program with it (one of the pitfalls of C++).

[Meep]

Nice to meet you, and welcome to BBgamezone